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Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:41:00 -
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Berendas wrote:The Machariel is, and has been overpowered for quite a long time. Its rebalance is long overdue. I can't produce a link at the moment, but I know that CCP has stated either on the forums or in a dev blog that the Mach will be brought in line with the other faction battleships.
It will be the third nerf if they do. I can't understand where that "about time" came from. If they nerf the Machariel the t1 Dominix will be more powerful.
Eve, fly all 4 races or you're ******.
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Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2013.09.09 01:49:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Bastion Arzi wrote:
ive seen a near max skilled mach unable to break the tank on a near max skilled passive shield tanked rattler. Also the vindi does more dps than the mach albeit at terrible ranges but then thats blasters for u.
I agree with wolf the mach is fine as it is...
Pull the other one, it has bells on. You can make Rattlers with 4K DPS tank of passive regen. Any BS would be unable to break that -in fact, every so often the odd killmail pops up (usually pimped wormhole Rattlers) where the ship takes 2-4M damage before going under. It is not a reason for saying the machariel is fine and not in need of a nerf. The Machariel does more damage than most other battleships. it is the fact it is exceptionally fast and has three weapon bonuses which make it OP. Its falloff bonus gives it unrivalled damage projection. it is stronger in every way (shield, armour, hull) than the maelstrom, for example. It has one more slot to play with. its sig is 30% lower, base. its scan res is 50% higher, base. its sensor strength is 20% higher. It has a bigger drone bay. its base velocity is nearly 80% faster than the Maelstrom. Arguably you would think "well, i am paying a billion ISk I would want these kind of attributes!" but CCP does not set the price on the hull. Players do. The reason you pay a billion ISK is because of these attributes, which have no achilles heel. That's not balanced. You do not have to give anything up, compromise in any way, suffer a drawback if you fly the Machariel. The meta of the game is damage projection, range and mobility (to avoid hard tackle), all of which the machariel does better at than most ships in the game, if not all. So, yes. nerf inbound.
You are comparing a Pirate faction ship with a t1 ship and saying its not balanced. They aren't supposed to be.
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Posted - 2013.09.11 06:20:00 -
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Quote:But my whole point to begin with was to not compare dominix mach rattle, but since people did compare the rattlesnake in a favorable light to the machariel I had to call bullshit on that.
I fly Both. RS can finish almost all non-angel missions faster than the mach every time with the same 3 slot tank. I don't use the scrub ass MJD for starters. So nerfing the Mach and either buffing or not touching the RS would leave us with RS and Domi as better boats than the Mach. Nerfing the RS and Mach would leave the Domi better than both. Both of those scenarios suck . The only thing they can possibly do is nerf the agility and speed which has already been done. So essentially admit they didn't do the job right the first time.
RS gets an explosion radius and explosion velocity buff and remove the missile velocity buff, Domi gets a 2nd nerf to the drone tracking and range, and Mach gets a 2nd nerf to agility/speed. Thats the only way its going to be fair, will still leave the RS better than the Mach, and sin't going to happen because CCP doesn't want to admit the ****** up the balancing 4 times already on just 2 ships.
Quote:No one cares about PvE I can do level 4s in any battleship in the game, some would take longer that others but it's not like it's hard.
It makes a huge difference in time consumption which makes a huge difference in number of subs. While it may not be a top priority for you, CCP definitely recognizes that if they nerf peoples income over time it will cause real loss of income for them.
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:53:00 -
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Quote:Hi sec people are hilarious.
I fly a mach in truesec too, nice attempt at character assassination.
Renter scrubs are even hilariouser.
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Posted - 2013.09.13 16:28:00 -
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Selectable damage types, plural, with an s. It always does kinetic, which half of New Eden is stacked against naturally.
Claiming that selectable damage types is a benefit in incursions is akin to saying "I don't know anything". Claiming that selectable damage types is an advantage in PvP when it ALWAYS does kinetic is more of the same.
The Mach rips Angels to shreds. Its par for the course against all else.
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Posted - 2013.09.14 09:47:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Claiming that selectable damage types is a benefit in incursions is akin to saying "I don't know anything". that's why i did not say it. Quote:Claiming that selectable damage types is an advantage in PvP when it ALWAYS does kinetic is more of the same. so it always does 100% kinetic? no wait, is it 50%? OH RIGHT it's somewhere between 10% and 20% while the rest goes straight into the resist hole unless you were too stupid to switch ammo while warping. and i know i know, now you will tell me how you often have to fight against several enemies with different resist holes and all of them have like 110% kinetic resistance so you're actually healing them with your shots. it's amazing how many mental contortions people will go through when they don't want to lose their ticket to the gravy train.
1. I didn't say you said anything. Guilty conscience maybe? I couldn't tell ya. Other people said it though.
Mickey Knox wrote:This aint about you ya egamaniac
2. Its less of an advantage than 100% selectable damage for certain.
3. If you were paying any attention at all you would no its not "my gravy train". Its my ship of choice for what it excels at. For example if you nerf it more than ever so slightly and buff the RS slightly there will be zero reason to fly it. Same with the Vargur post winter expansion. Same with Domi.
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Posted - 2013.09.15 22:31:00 -
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Texty wrote:Onictus wrote:Hell I haven't even used my Mach in over a year, its to much of a pain in the ass to haul around so I just leave it in low sec. (I actually lost it and spent an hour trying to figure out which toon had it).
Its SO overpowered that I have no use for it.
I seriously don't get the pitchforks. If you don't fly Machs, what in this thread is bothering you so much?
Are you trolling?
What would you do if they wanted to rebalance things that you thought didn't need it?
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Posted - 2013.09.18 05:12:00 -
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Verity Sovereign wrote:Krullon wrote:LEAVE the MACH ALONE. Thank you and good day! Translation: Dear CCP, I fly the mach because it is OP'd. Please keep it OP'd so I don't have to consider any other BS, and I have the best BS for nearly all situations.
Theres lots of good posts here explaining why thats not exactly the case.
Out of the 4 empires, it really only excels in Minmatar for PvE. It really Only Excels in small gang PvP, and certainly not a small gang of Machs. Its an Angel killer. Let it kill Angels. Give it a slight agility penalty and be done with it. Dont make it less powerful than an RS.
Go do the Assault in a TFI, RS, and Mach. Mach will come in last place. The TFI isnt even pirate. Run it in a RNI just for ***** and giggles. Watch it lose. Then Run it in a Dominix and watch it tie at best.
Go run a wormhole with it. Run it in a WR and time it against an Armageddon. 2nd Place out of 2.
Go solo PvP it vs a VIdi. Watch your ISKies go bye bye as you get web ****** in the Jove-hole.
Its great, it's not the best ship hands down. It needs a small tweak, not a nerf.
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Posted - 2013.09.19 18:01:00 -
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People see what they wanna see. Dominix is on WAY more KM's than Mealstrom. Because the Mach is the only decent PvP projectile BS. I don't hear them crying nerf the Domi, although it is way more powerful in its class than the Mach is. Domi has had as many recent buffs as Mach has had nerfs. RS isn't on KM's? Boo friggin hoo, theres other drone boats that put out MORE DPS. Vindi isnt on KM's? Oh wait, theres 4 or 5 blaster boats with as much DPS as the Vindi for 1/5 the price. NM not on KM's? My fraking Armageddon gets as much DPS, although its not a laser boat ,there are comparable laser boats in the damage category with great tank for way less money.
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Posted - 2013.09.20 06:01:00 -
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And Mega is the hull of choice for cost effective harassing ATM, again, people seeing what they want to see.
Using the logic presented in the above post its time to nerf the Mega, not the Mach.
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